Ghost House Inc.
- Ajia Saunders
- Jul 22
- 23 min read
A group of friends living the F.R.I.E.N.D.S dream.
Chatting with The Ghost House Inc – just a bunch of friends, nonsense, and inside jokes as they explain how this podcast brought them together. Read the interview or listen to the podcast episode on Spotify if you want to see how they lived the true F.R.I.E.N.D.S lifestyle without the expensive New York Apartments. (Episode title: Nervous Ghost Press Interview Season 2)
“We always talk about when you're growing up, like let's go move in together, let's go hang out, let's do this. But nothing like that ever happens. We actually did it.”
Victor: Welcome to the Ghost House Podcast and us hanging as a house. Ghost house. Hi everybody.
Everyone: Hi.
Victor: My name's Victor.
Cai: This is Cai.
Fatima (Fati): This is Fatima.
Jesus: This is Jesus.
Ajia Saunders: And this is Ajia.
V: Ajia's our special guest. She's out here representing the Nervous Ghost … Podcast. No, no nervous ghost …
AS: Press.
V: Press. I keep saying, “like oh it's the publisher!” But you are also on Instagram as readinglibrary_
AS: Yes, that was my bookstagram. You gotta know the lingo, Victor.
V: How was your day?
AS: My day was good! I didn't do much today, kind of just cleaned up the house after a really messy Thanksgiving. So other than that, that was about it. But I'm glad to be able to talk to you guys and be the first interviewees of the Nervous Ghost Press. So I hope you guys all feel honored.
Everyone: [cheering]
AS: Also, this is totally a tester, so if this goes terribly wrong, we’ll just figure it out, okay? [laughing] But yeah, so basically a little about what this interview's about is the Nervous Ghost Press is big on the art community, and there's so many different forms of art, and a lot of other people count podcasts as a form of art. It's kind of verbal art and it is something that you guys have all created, which is awesome. And so I was just hoping to ask you guys basically a bunch of personal questions about your podcast. Yeah, it's gonna get deep!
J: Victor knows all about that.
V: [laughing] What was that?
Everyone: [laughing]
J: His first questions on the podcast was like—
K: Do you believe in an afterlife or some bullshit?
J: How do people live their life?
Everyone: [laughing]
V: Then it’s finally my turn to say it and I was like “is this how we want [the podcast] to go?”
J: Like I thought it was just supposed to be for fun not super serious.
AS: Good. Well, then let's all start with your deepest darkest secrets actually, that was my first question.
K: Actually?
AS: No. That'd be funny though, to start off the interview that way.
Everyone: [laughing]
AS: [joking] What are you guys scared of and how do you express that in art? [laughing] No. So the first question is just kind of general, why did you guys decide to start this podcast? What's the origin story?
J: So the funny thing about that, I don't remember how, but I remember we barged into Kay's room. It was Victor and I. Then we were just randomly talking, and we're like, you know, This conversation, if we recorded it and turned it into a podcast, I think it would be a great idea. So us three agreed, and then we roped the rest of the house in with us, and they did not have a choice. Isn't that right?
F: Yeah.
V: It was a way for you guys to get closer to Fatima.
J: Oh, yeah!
F: If only he just took us out to dinner …
AS: That's fair. Alrighty, can you tell me why The Ghost House? Why is it called that? Where did that name come from?
V: The ghost house is named after the actual house. We didn't name it. When we were signing the lease, we did the signatures and the lady here was looking for the keys and they called the maintenance man and was like “hey do you have the extra set of keys for the ghost house?” And we all looked at each other like, “what?” And she looks at us, turns away and still finishes the phone call and looks at us after hanging up. She's like ...
“So I'm sure you heard that,” and we were like “yeah, what are you talking about? What?” [laughing]. We just signed the lease. And she's like, “yeah, the neighbors called it the ghost house. They think it's haunted.” And like two years ago, they actually had it blessed by a, what was it, a priest? And then we learned later on, apparently they say someone died upstairs. That's where I live. The shed's haunted in the back. But yeah, it's called a Ghost House because it was already called the Ghost House. I found a buddy of mine at work and he's like, “I know that house, the Ghost House? Yeah, I know that house.”
J: Everybody knows that house.
V: I never heard of that Okay!
K: We all kind of like that spooky vibe just in general so the house just really … We all just really fit with it.
AS: Right. Do you think the spirits are with us now? Listening to your guys podcast?
K: They're probably rolling their fucking eyes.
AS: Well at least you made something positive out of it, right? Like the podcast? It's better than getting out like an Ouija board …
K: I don't think we would ever use an Ouija board in here. We already have enough little experiences.
AS: Yeah, valid, valid. Where do you see this podcast going? What are your goals for this podcast in the future?
J: That's a good question, Victor?
V: Hopefully as we can still keep doing this and keep coming together, because I feel like with this podcast, we've also come to get closer—whether be the trips.
K: I think we got closer in the car coming back from Disneyland.
F: I feel like we got closer after …
V: After the creative differences.
J: Yeah.
V: That's where we're coming from. But hopefully we keep doing this for a while and even if when one of us does move out, we still get together and do a little joint session.
K: Yeah, I'm moving in late July and so I'm gonna try and do it over the Riverside app or Zoom or something.
J: Just tell us you hate us.
AS: A spirit is leaving the ghost house, oh no.
"Yeah, the neighbors called it the Ghost House. They think it's haunted."
K: Very sad. I know these guys won't miss me. They'll get to do their looney bean runs without me again.
J: You were asleep!
K: I wasn't. I was getting ready for a thing that you told me we were getting ready for. And then nobody got ready for it.
J: We were ready and then we got there and they were apparently not allowing people to go.
K: Nu uh! I got ready and then we didn't leave for another two hours.
J: That's not even my fault!
K: Yes it is.
J: Alright then, anyway …
"Only angsty people write."
AS: All right, that's awesome. So considering that we're talking about art, the art community, being a podcast, being a part of a form of art, this is a little bit more of a personal question, but how do you think art just in general has affected your guys' life? Has there been like a significant moment where you've either appreciated art or you've expressed yourself through art? Is there just anything specific you'd like to share?
K: Who wants to start with that one?
F & J: Victor?
J: We’ll go clockwise, we normally do.
K: He’s the deep one.
V: Well, I suppose that you can say for sure film is art. And I would always say superhero movies have always affected me as a kid. A little hopeful feeling. You walk out of the theater and just being able to talk to somebody, find people, similar to this one over here. He likes Spider-Man, Right?
J: No sir.
V: Yeah right. Show me your Spiderman tattoo.
J: [lying] I don't have one.
K: fake fan, fake fan!
V: But I don't know, I think of paintings mostly as art, I like their paintings gestures to group That's not your question, but that's all I'm thinking.
AS: Alright.
V: high pitched voice Someone else please!
K: I think probably one of my favorite forms of art is music. I can't really make music very well, but it's something that I feel like it's deeply personal and also it's a great way to share– It's a great way to share art with friends, because you find either music that you both listen to, like you like the same songs, or similar genres, or like the feeling a song makes you feel can help someone else feel that feeling.
J & V: [side giggling]
K: Why are you laughing at me!?
J: wait, wait, wait I’m not laughing at you.
K: I try to share something nice and these guys are laughing at me.
J: I’m laughing at Victor because he had his YouTube profile open on the TV one day. I was just about to shoot something on his TV and one of the search results was sexy music.
Everyone: [laughing]
J: I'm like, Victor what is this?
V: And I’m like “put it away, put it away”
J: That’s what I was laughing about.
AS: Read the room man, read the room.
J: I did read the room and I thought it was funny as f***
AS: Alright, Fatima, how about you?
F: I would have to say music as well, especially since I love to go to concerts. I really like listening to my favorite songs in person. Like, The Beach by The Neighborhood, when I saw them live, I almost wanted to kill myself because of how beautiful it was.
J: Was like, “I'll never be able to hear anything as close as this.”
F: Mm-hmm. That's why I love going to concerts, because I can hear my favorite music live. They're singing it to me only, no one else.
K: I like hearing live concerts too, because you're hearing your favorite songs, because the speakers and everything is so loud, you can feel it.
F: And you're seeing them. You're seeing them right there.
J: I think for me, what is art would be music, Anime. I love anime.
F: He loves anime.
J: Then another form of art for me, I think would be Gundam building. Because I could spend hours upon hours just building miniature robots because they come to you in runners, which is like just pieces of plastic that you have to cut off, put together, and build robots. And I think that's pretty cool.
AS: That’s interesting. That is not what I expected you to say. That's actually pretty cool.
J: Or LEGOs, as some people put it. They're not LEGOs.
K: They're basically LEGOs.
AS: Well, we have some conflict going on right now … I guess this leads into another question and do you guys do any other forms of art besides this podcast like drawing? I know you mentioned you don't do a lot of music, but do you guys make your own music? Do you do drawing? Do you do anything else like painting things like that?
J: Does Minecraft count?
AS: Yes, I think so.
J: Victor?
V: Art Forms are hard. I would say arm wrestling is an art. Besides that, that's all I got.
AS: That's not an art.
V: It's an art form! Big skill.
AS: Big skill and training I guess.
V: Just handholding. I'm not really doing any forms of art recently.
J: Yeah, I am not really an artistic person.
V: I stopped writing. I’m not doing anything else.
K: Why did you stop?
V: I just don't feel angsty anymore.
AS: You don’t have to be angsty to write!
V: Only angsty people write.
AS: I’m a writer!
V: … Super angsty
AS: [joking] I’m not doing this podcast anymore. End it, stop recording. I feel attacked right now for my art form.
V: I’m kidding. I just couldn’t think of anything.
AS: You just can't write your Wattpad fan fic anymore, that's why.
K: You’re like, “that's right, I’m on AO3 now”
Everyone: [laughing]
K: I also used to write, but I don't write as much anymore. I used to like writing poetry, but I can't think of any art I do now, except for the podcast.
F: I also don't do any art. And I've never written before because I'm dyslexic.
V: Besides your figurines, Jesus, what else do you do as an artistic outlet?
J: Nothing.
M: Do you have them in your house?
J: Yeah. There's some of them up there. There's some of them in my room.
F: Jesus is a good singer.
M: Oh, yeah, I’ve heard him sing Let It Go. Can you sing for us in this podcast? You should do an episode on that.
J: Well, one of the things we were planning on doing was creating a gaming channel. Doing our podcast while we're playing Minecraft or something and if we could also do a karaoke session on the podcast.
AS: That would be cool! Invite me over for that one, I'll get down to karaoke.
J: I don't know how we're going to make that work, but we'll make it work.
AS: Cool, that's awesome! OK, can you share your guys' favorite episode of your podcast so far?
Everyone: Ohhh that's a good question.
F: I'll answer. Definitely the one with Isaac. I think that one was my favorite episode.
K: That one was pretty good.
AS: Why?
F: I think his lore was really interesting. All my family is always like, “where is the gang member?” I'm like, “I don't know.”
AS: Can you share what season and episode number that is?
V: Season two. The episode they're talking about is called Spirit Visits, Isaac and the Deathly Hollows. It's season two, episode three.
AS: Nice. Okay, what about everybody else? What's your guys' favorite episode?
J: Yeah, Victor, what is your favorite episode?
V: Oh, thank you for asking, Jesus So …
AS: Be prepared to say the season and the number.
V: Okay, season two, episode four is the episode by my little sister Kayla. It's called Spirit Visits Once Upon a Kayla. And I just remember talking about old memories growing up and how we pissed off our parents and then they'd come yell at us and we'd be shifting blame like, “we didn't do that, that was the other one” and it's just pulling off old memories of what life was like when we were kids and taking her to swimming practice, and sprinting over across town.
J: That's a pretty funny episode.
AS: Sounds nostalgic.
V: What about y'all?
K: Honestly, I don't think I have a favorite. They'll hold the same amount of hate in my heart.
J: Hate?! Whoa.
AS: So, is this a hostage situation? Are you being forced to be on this podcast right now?
K: [laughing] I love them all the same, like what my mom would say to me and my siblings …
AS: Alright, Jesus, what about you?
J: I think …
Uh, I don't necessarily have a favorite episode. Um …
If I had to put …
I don't know. Well technically since I'm the only one who edits most of the episodes, it depends on the situation. It would have to be all of the “Just Us” episodes where it's just the four of us talking about our lives.
V: That's season two, episode six and seven.
J: No, I think my favorite one is going to be “Just Us part one”. Where we talk about our trip back from Disneyland. Fun fact about that one, the reason why it's so short is because we kinda ran out of stuff to talk about.
K: And also a lot of the stuff that we wanted to talk about was kind of classified. So we still talked about it, but we cut all of it out.
V: We cut like 30 to 40 minutes out, right?
J: We took a lot. I think we recorded for like three hours, and “Just Us Part 2” was only 28 minutes long.
AS: Whoa, okay, so there's like hidden footage of your guys' podcast. One that's gonna be dug up in the archives or something when you guys become famous and legends. I’m gonna use that as leverage and sell it on eBay.
Everyone: [laughing]
AS: Alright cool. Would you guys want to share a fun fact about yourself that you haven't shared on the podcast episodes yet? Could be boring, could be interesting.
K: We’ve shared so much about ourselves, I don't even know what people know and don't know.
V: I was almost sent to a pig farm to work there. My career was almost a pig farmer.
K: Okay, Fun fact about me? … I feel like I'm a pretty open book here so I don't know what I haven't said …
Let me think about it, Fati?
F: I … Nothing interesting.
J: Fun fact about myself? Well, I guess I have a birthmark on my eye. I completely forget I have it sometimes. Because when I take my glasses off, it's mostly noticeable.
K: I don't know. I can't think of any fun facts about myself.
J: What about the hike?
K: Oh Yeah, my mom's blog. So we went on this like six week trip just all over the place and Wait, are you talking about my mom's blog, not the 52 mile hike, right?
AS: The 52 mile hike?
K: OK, I'll talk about that one because I remember most of that one. I think it was a couple years after my family and I lived here in Bishop. We went on this 52 mile hike around North and South Lake.
The first day that we did it, was, well, every day it either rained, snowed, hailed with thunder and lightning, or all of the above at the same time. And the first day that we did it, it stormed, and we're like, “we should just go back.” Like, “why are we doing this? It's terrible weather.” My mom's like, “no, we gotta do it.”
And so we hiked for seven days. I think the most miles we did in one day was like 14 miles. It was really beautiful when the weather wasn't trying to make me die of hypothermia. But it was also very traumatic. Sometimes I'm worried that I'll wake up and I'll still be on that hike.
AS: Wow, that's crazy. That's a long hike. I would have given up after like mile five.
K: The first day we did eight miles. It's all uphill.
AS: That's awful.
K: It was very hard. While it was storming.
AS: Would you do it again?
K: Maybe now that I'm older, I would, but I'm not sure. I was wearing a 40 pound backpack while doing it too. This is when I was just getting into sixth grade so that thing was like a third of my body weight.
AS: Alright, that makes sense. Could you guys share a fun fact about the podcast or something about the podcast that nobody knows yet?
J: There's a couple of things about the podcast.
F: And Victor will tell you.
V: We have taken, I think we have taken down one episode.
J: Two
V: Is it two?
F: No, there was one that was posted and we took it down. The other one, that person didn't want it to be posted.
V: They didn't want us to post anymore so we didn’t. So technically we two lost episodes.
AS: Whoa, why'd you take him down?
V: One was a person that's … We don't want to affiliate anymore at all.
J: That one was creative differences. The other one we took, we never even posted it because we had finished editing it and we had done everything with it and we're ready to post. But before we posted it, the person that we recorded it with didn't want us to post it.
V: They were on board one day, next day they were iffy and the next day they were completely done with it.
AS: Do you guys still have those episodes downloaded on a laptop or something like that?
V: We still have it.
AS: Wow, interesting. Did anybody get to listen to the last episode before it was taken down?
J: No. Oh! Yeah!
K: the one that we didn't post, only we have heard it. But the one that we omitted the person from, I'm pretty sure everybody had heard it, because it was our second episode. It's like our second or third. Episode in season one. So pretty much everyone had heard it.
AS: Interesting. That's like some serious celebrity gossip right there. You guys have these lost episodes. That's kind of cool actually.
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Does anybody have any funny stories that you would like to share on the podcast that you haven’t shared yet?
J: There have been a couple times where we recorded an episode and we've been yapping on for hours and then we looked down at either the computer or the recording device and it has not been recorded. There is so much lost audio from some episodes.
AS: That's my fear right now. I'm definitely checking my phone to make sure it's still going. You know how funny that would be if I wasn't recording this entire time? You'd have to totally restore it.
J: For a while there, at the end of every episode, we would say, I wasn't recording the entire time. That wasn't recorded.
K: [joking] Ah shit, it wasn't recording!
AS: All that work just wasted! And so you guys are working on season three right now then.
K: This will be our episode 2 of season 3.
AS: Okay, how many episodes do you guys usually have for a season?
V: The reason why we stopped for season 3 is because we finally got that new intro that Solise made for us. So we wanted to start season 3. Will that be in this episode?
J: It has already been played on episode 1.At the time of this recording, I have yet to edit that episode. But … We got busy.
"It's not a Ghost House anymore. It's a Ghost Home."
AS: Have you guys ever gotten irritated with each other and then forced each other to be in the podcast together even though you're irritated with each other?
K: Not since creative differences.
AS: So you guys, overall, it's like friendly banter?
J: Before our creative differences—the person that was part of the podcast—did not want to be part of the podcast and while they were still here we were kind of distant from ourselves, but ever since he has stepped out of the picture. It's been more …
V: More of a home
J: Yeah.
F: Yeah, I was going to say like before, I kind of thought that we were forcing Cai to do it or like forcing Cai to hang out with us.
K: No, I wanted to.
F: But as soon as that person left, Cai came out of their tower and started socializing with us.
AS: It turned into a Ghost Home.
Everyone: Yes!
AS: It's not a Ghost House anymore. It's a Ghost Home [joking],
Change your name now … So you guys started this straight from scratch then. Have you ever done anything podcast-wise before?
K: I've done a little bit, but mostly just for … Like a school project and for fun. What did I do? I think it was my junior or sophomore year. No, it was my junior year. We had this project where we had to do some form of art regarding the Declaration of Independence. And so me and my sister, we did a podcast analysis on it.
We just sat in her bed and talked. I had to turn the 30 minute conversation into a three minute podcast episode. It was very difficult, but I did it.
AS: Okay, but everybody else is kind of new to this stuff?
V: So Jesus and I tried to do it on a gaming YouTube channel but the other person fell through, so we ran to go through it.
J: Victor has done some voice acting before.
F: Oh yeah!
AS: What was your voice acting?
V: I voice acted for Batman and Bruce Wayne. And the bet is going if Jesus is able to find what I did. I showed him a part of the script. And I told him if you're able to find out what I worked on– It's a different name that I use– If he's able to recognize my voice, he gets like $1,000, right?
J: It was 2
V: No, you're jumpin’ dog.
K: The more raises you get with that right money, the more it's gonna jump up.
AS: I think we should open this up to the audience if anybody can find that audio of Victor then they get the 1000 dollars.
V: No, do not show Jesus. The bet is still going on. I tell him “I’ll show you the video right now and we’ll stop the bet”
J: I hate that you do that when I'm drunk.
V: You put your fingers together and are like “I can do it right now? I can know?”
J: No, I don't ever want to know unless I find it. If I'm like 90 and on my death bed, I will die not knowing.
Everyone: [laughing]
AS: Going back to the Batman thing, how long have you been searching for the Batman audio?
J: More than five years.
V: Yeah, I think I was 18 when I did it.
J: It's been a minute.
AS: Alright, awesome. So then the next question. Do you guys listen to any other podcasts? What podcasts do you guys listen to?
F: Rotten Mango is the only one I listen to.
AS: What is that?
F: It's just about Stephanie Sue. She talks about true crime.
V: It's pretty good. On the drive, she's like, “do you want me to change it?” And I go, “leave it!” It's pretty good … Until it gets pretty disgusting, then I’m like, “can you change it?” I have to ask her to stop. And she's like, “this is nothing.”
K: I listened to a podcast called And That's Why We Drink. It's a paranormal and true crime podcast. I actually got to see them live a few years ago. It was awesome. But yeah, they're pretty good. They're really funny. Like when they're talking about serious stuff, they stay serious, but they always try to make everything lighthearted and happy as best as they can considering the gravity of what they're talking about.
AS: That one's interesting. All right, Victor, Jesus?
V: My favorite one is the Art of Manliness podcast. They usually have a lot of guests on there, talk about different subjects, a lot of philosophy and skills or forgotten works that's not as popular. I've known that there's even Stone Lifting and stuff like, Teddy Roosevelt. I'm just open to that type of stuff. That's pretty fun to hear about.
AS: What about you, Jesus?
J: I don't really listen to podcasts. What I do listen to a lot of is YouTube horror stories and horror channels like
K: Like creepypastas?
J: I Listen to a whole bunch of horror stuff where it's like the three hour video of nothing but like horror stories, true crime, all that stuff.
AS: That's pretty cool, actually. All right. How do you guys figure out what you're going to talk about in your podcasts?
K: Whatever our heart desires.
AS: Like, as soon as you guys start recording? Or do you have a topic beforehand?
K: Sometimes if it's “Just Us” episode, we'll kind of compile a few things or at least try to. But when it comes to having guests and stuff, Victor kind of has a … A script for us to follow.
V: It's just learning other origin stories, stuff they like, and stories that they can tell. That's pretty much for the spirit visits.
J: I definitely think we should have more of a script to follow and then go off of that. Because there's been so many times where there's like silence for minutes.
V: [joking] We're just depending on the autism to start bleeding out.
K: Yeah, we kind of just let the …
V: … Autism come out.
AS: Alright, next question. Why should people listen to your podcast?
K: Yeah, Victor.
V: You guys don't want to answer this one?
K: You're our gracious leader. You have to answer the question first.
V: If you're feeling lonely, you just want to hang out. If you want something in the background and you don't want to be lonely, want to get to know us. We always talk about when you're growing up, like let's go move in together, let's go hang out, let's do this. But nothing like that ever happens. We actually did it. One of my best friends, we got to know Kay, we got to know Fati. And we actually made it to a house of friends. A really close little family.
Everyone kind of wants to feel what that's kind of like, you listen to this podcast and have fun with us.
AS: This is a serious “How I Met Your Mother” or like “Friends” version right now like living with your friends in adulthood– that never happens
J: Well, It never happens where everything works out just right and nobody's at each other's throats. No drama, It's all just fluid, everyone living together. No drama.
V: We just made a Minecraft world like last week.
K: It was just supposed to be for the house.
J: Yeah! Victor!
K: Until Victor invited like all Bishop!
V: Fatima and I discussed it just for the house and then I invited—
F: First of all, me and him had a world and he's like, “should it be for the house?” and I was like “no. It's an us world. We can make another one for the house”. Then he started inviting everybody and they mama's.
V: The ghost house is in the Minecraft world. Our houses are all in the same little spot.
K: People are building whole ass castles and shit. I'm over here in like, my own cobblestone shed.
V: Oh my god someone when crazy! Like how when I stumbled across this random building and I was like, “when did they start making castles?” I turn around and I see my house and I'm like “oh my god, I've been raiding his house in entire time.”
V: Think the funniest thing about our Minecraft world is the fact that when you're in it you can see everybody's houses going up everybody's creations and buildings and you look off into the distance And you see this hut made of stone.
Everyone: [laughing]
V: It doesn't have a roof either. There's snow inside!
K: I think we're getting off the question. She's like “Why they should hang out with us” and we are like, “Minecraft!”
AS: [joking] This episode is sponsored by Minecraft!
V: It's gonna be happening on our episode. So if you really want to hear us, we just start yapping and get off topic.
AS: Okay, so back to the original question. Why should people listen to your podcast?
K: It's kind of like … it feels like you're just sitting there hanging out with your friends and so I feel like we kind of have that same vibe of like you don't even have to be really following with the conversation it just feels like feels nice to have someone in your home with you that you like and trust.
J: I THINK … If you're bored and don't really listen to podcasts, this would be a perfect segue to start getting into podcasts because there's no definitive story or there's no definitive timeline for our podcast so if you like an episode and you don't like the other one, there's plenty other more that you could start off with and be totally fine.
V: Put that! No, I'm kidding.
AS: I’m gonna type that all up.
J: We're bleeping that right?
V: Your boss is like, “what are you guys talking about?”
AS: I'm gonna get fired for my volunteer position, guys. My unpaid volunteer position.
K: Isn't that what you're trying to do, Jesus?
J: No!
V: Oh, he's in now! He's a firefighter now. Did the interview, got his gear, he's in.
AS: Oh you really are?
J: Yes.
AS: Are you going to start playing “We Didn’t Start the Fire” while your driving down the street in your fire truck now? Blair on the way to the fire.
J: That would be great.
AS: When do you start, or have you already started?
J: I have already started, but I can't do anything until the HR lady puts me through.
AS: Okay, so you haven't actually put out a fire yet.
J: Correct.
F: Typical volley behavior.
V: Oh yeah, we're volunteers. That's a big joke, being just a volley.
AS: Just being a volley. Don't you get paid though?
K: Just 20 dollars a year?
V: Every call you get, you go to, you get paid 20 bucks. And that's pretty much it.
AS: Wow, you guys should do an episode of like the craziest cases you've done for, or you've like gone through.
J: Unfortunately, you can't do that because that isn’t allowed.
AS: Oh so Victor can't tell us any horror fire stories.
V: I don't have any horror fire stories.
J: But he wouldn't be able to tell us anyway. It's confidential.
AS: Alright, wow, that's interesting. Congratulations Jesus. Alright, so I guess coming to an end, is there anything you'd like to share just in general about the podcast, about life, about art, anything?
AS: …
V: [joking] Don't jump at once.
J: Bridgerton is such a good show, you should watch it.
K: Yeah, I've been getting Jesus into Bridgerton.
AS: Okay, anything else you guys want to share? Just random.
F: I don't think so.
V: No, I just want to say thank you to the Nervous Ghost … Press for letting us do this …I'm so used to saying Ghost House.
AS: The Nervous Ghost Press is going to publish your Nervous Ghost House conversation. No, wait, not the Nervous Ghost House! it's just the ghost—uh
V: Fire her!
AS: I'm totally getting fired for that one. It's the Ghost House and the Nervous Ghost Press.
K: We are gonna accidentally copyright each other
AS: Yeah seriously, feel like a lot of the things we've mentioned are like a lot of we're talking about other people's podcasts and stuff. We're indirectly sponsoring people right now just like kind of an ad.
K: Just a glorified hour-long ad.
AS: Basically of Minecraft and Bridgerton and crime … podcasts. Well, I think that concludes my questions, but it was awesome talking to guys and being on the podcast. And I hope you guys look forward to seeing your interview on their website. I'll let you know when it comes out.
V: Thanks for hanging out with us. Bye everybody.
Everyone: Bye!
No one ever told these guys life was gonna be this way. Even though your life's a joke and you're broke it's nice to know that real friends are out there ... in the the Ghost House.
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Ajia Saunders
Nervous Ghost Press, Inc. is a California nonprofit public benefit corporation created to advocate and promote the arts for those who need it most. Learn more about the organization at www.nervousghostpress.org
Interview date November 28, 2025
Published July 22, 2026